As a leader, the demands on your time and attention can be overwhelming. When you’re managing a team, juggling multiple projects, and every action from every meeting seems to have your name against it, it's easy to lose sight of the bigger picture. This is where the practice of regular quarterly planning and review can be a game-changer, helping you stay focused, keep your eyes on the real priorities and ultimately deliver more in your role
Key points from this episode
- Why Quarterly planning and review can be a career game changer if you commit to it
- What to consider when reflecting on the previous 90 days
- How to create a 90 day plan when you're already in a role and looking forward
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Transcript
Hello, and welcome to this week's episode.
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:If you are listening, as this
episode is released, then it is the
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:end of the first quarter of:which has gone alarmingly quickly.
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:But what we wanted to do was to share
a process that we use individually
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:for ourselves within our own
business, but also that we use with
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:clients, which is around quarterly
reflection and future planning.
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:So this is something that probably
for me, just became a bit of a habit
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:towards the end of my employed career.
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:And it's something that I know that
I could have been far more effective
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:if I'd learned some of these skills
earlier on, hence why we wanted to
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:share it and encourage you to consider
how it might be able to help you.
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:So Pam quarterly planning, then why.
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:Is that a thing?
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:Why is it that we chose to
pick this for the podcast?
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:Pam: So we chose it.
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:I feel like we chose it because
it is something that we
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:find so useful to start with.
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:Like we really find it useful
and it really helps us drive
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:our businesses forward.
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:And when we use it with clients, we
can really see how it helps drive
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:their careers forward and their
effectiveness within their roles as well.
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:So one of the things that comes up
often with quarterly planning and
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:reviews is that most of our objectives
generally set once a year, aren't they?
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:In the corporate worlds, we do that, that
annual objective setting and planning.
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:It gets filed away.
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:And then we don't come back to it.
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:Oh, actually that's probably not
the best way to to talk about that
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:because we do come back to them.
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:But usually when there's about
one week to go to, to review or,
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:a couple of weeks to go until
they're going to be reviewed again.
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:And we come back to them and we
go, Oh my goodness, I missed that.
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:I forgot about that.
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:Did that, but not quite in that context.
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:So doing it quarterly.
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:I feel like makes all the
difference because you can
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:review what's ahead of you.
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:You can review what you need to do
immediately, and you can look at the
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:long term goals and make sure that they
still align with the business goals.
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:And also, when you're looking at
your own personal development with
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:your longer term goals as well.
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:So it just makes sense to do it on a
quarterly basis so that you checking
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:in with yourself, with, maybe with the
rest of the business to make sure that
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:the annual objectives are really still
the things that you need to deliver.
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:And then if you need to change the plan,
if you need to change direction, you
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:can do that and it's absolutely fine.
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:And you're doing that with intention.
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:Jacqui: That intention is so important.
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:And this really links into our whole
strapline of take ownership of your
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:career, being in a situation where
you have those annual objectives.
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:I was smiling as you were describing it.
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:I was like, Oh, that's taken me back
to literally pulling out my objectives
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:document and going, Oh, okay.
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:And I think the other thing, if you
don't create some structure around
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:shorter range reflection and planning.
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:Then what often happens for my
clients, certainly it did for
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:me in my employee career is.
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:You end up with additional things
that aren't on your annual objectives
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:that become quite big projects or
quite big uses of your time, energy,
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:and resources, whether that's
individually for you or for your team.
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:And those things sometimes get
missed because they might not be
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:on the annual objectives document.
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:And sometimes it's about reassessing,
like you say, Do the shorter term things
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:that we're engaged with, me, myself, and
also a team that I might be leading, are
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:those still the most important things?
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:Are they contributing
to my annual objectives?
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:And if the things that feel more
important or that I've been guided
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:to say are more important for me to
deliver in the shorter term, then
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:those potentially need to be reflected.
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:And it may be that things need to come
off so that you don't run the risk of
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:getting to that two weeks before your
annual appraisal and realizing that
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:it looks like you haven't achieved
what you were supposed to achieve.
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:You can really take ownership of showing
throughout the year, not just at the end.
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:The contribution that you're making, the
value that you're adding in your role.
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:Pam: Yeah.
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:And one of the things that I find really
useful with the quarterly planning is that
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:it really helps you to set boundaries.
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:So where you might be unsure of what your
boundaries should look like, actually,
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:when you go through that quarterly
planning process and you reflect on
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:what you've achieved, and then you look
forward at what you're, what you're
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:Going to work on, in, in the next few
months, that is really going to help
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:you to decide what you can and can't do.
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:It is going to really set those boundaries
in stone because by doing X means you
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:can't do Y or by giving time to something
else means that it's going to take your
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:time away from something that could be
critical in you achieving your objectives.
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:So it's, I find it really useful
from that perspective as well.
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:Jacqui: It really is.
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:So if people haven't been in this habit,
how can you make a start with this?
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:If somebody didn't set three months
objectives at the start of this year,
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:or, this isn't their annual cycle.
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:Where are the first steps?
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:Pam: So the first step for me is always
to stop and take a step back and assess
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:what has happened in the previous quarter.
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:You're just looking backwards at what
you've done, at what you've achieved,
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:how easy it was, how difficult it was,
and really like focusing in on all of
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:the good stuff, the things that you've
learned, and also thinking about what
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:you want to work on going forward.
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:And the only way that you'll Get to
that point of what do I want to work on
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:moving forward or what are the priorities
moving forward is to think back and
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:look at what you've covered over the
last three months or the last quarter.
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:Jacqui: Love that, and we've got
four specific areas, haven't we, that
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:people can start to use to get some
of that hindsight and reflection and
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:build some of that understanding of
what's been happening before they
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:move on to the future planning.
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:So talk us through those four things.
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:Pam: Okay.
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:So the first one is going to
be, what does the data say?
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:So looking at all of the relevant
data and metrics that will provide the
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:insights into your own team's performance,
the project progress that you've made
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:and just general overall results.
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:And looking at, are you actually on
track at this point to achieve the
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:annual results that you want to deliver?
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:That's always going to be key.
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:Number one,
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:Jacqui: so that could be things like KPIs.
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:It could be the ongoing stuff about
projects that you're engaged with.
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:Are they on time?
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:Are they on budget?
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:It could be looking at the review
ratings that you've achieved or
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:that your team have achieved.
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:There's so much different
data, isn't there?
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:That people can look at to
start to build this story.
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:Pam: Yeah, definitely.
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:And then the next part, number
two is going to be reflecting on
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:achievements because we know most
of the ambitious leaders that we
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:work with, they don't spend enough
time capturing the good stuff.
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:And it's so important because apart
from that feel good factor that you
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:get from reviewing the good stuff.
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:It's really good to celebrate the
successes, the big and the small
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:successes, because we often overlook
some of these things as just being
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:part of the day job, but it can really
help you to recognize the efforts and
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:the contributions that you've made,
that your team members have made.
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:understand what made those
things possible, like what
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:were those contributing factors
and what made them possible.
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:And it also really helps to define what
your contribution is overall or what the
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:contribution that you've made is overall.
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:And then when it comes around to your
annual review, you will be Absolutely.
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:Super pleased with yourself that you
created that list because you'll
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:have that list and everything will
be documented down there and you'll
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:be able to retain that information.
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:Jacqui: Yeah, I couldn't
agree more with that.
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:When people come to think about their
annual appraisal, we have a recency bias
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:in our head where the stuff that is more
recent is going to be more memorable.
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:And so if you haven't done this, you
are doing yourself a disservice when
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:you get to the annual appraisal, because
you're not doing yourself a disservice.
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:You and your boss are likely
only to remember the more recent
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:stuff at that particular time.
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:And a lot of these other
things will potentially just
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:be lost to the midst of time.
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:So if you are serious about wanting to
progress your career, this is one of
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:the single simplest, but most impactful
things that you can do for yourself.
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:Pam: Yeah, definitely.
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:And then the third thing is identify
Challenges that you've faced during the
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:last three months or the last quarter.
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:And this isn't about beating yourself up.
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:This is about having a real honest
assessment of where you fell
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:short, or when you came up against
unexpected obstacles, because.
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:Really looking into those things
and understanding the root causes
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:and how you explored those potential
solutions is really going to help
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:you move forward because most of us
naturally will just put anything that
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:was bad, anything that made us feel
uncomfortable in a box and store it away.
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:And what we want to do.
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:Is we want to unpack that at the
end of each quarter or the end of
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:each month and think about, what
did make us feel uncomfortable?
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:What did we learn from that?
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:What can we take away?
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:What will we do differently next time?
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:Jacqui: This comes up so often with
clients where something that feels
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:uncomfortable and horrible actually
becomes a really helpful learning point.
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:When you look at.
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:Could I have anticipated that challenge if
I were to face that same challenge again?
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:What would I want to do in
that particular situation?
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:These are the types of questions that
when I'm working with coaching clients,
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:they have that opportunity to reflect
and it lets go of emotion attached.
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:It lets go of beating yourself up and
shifts into What can I take from it?
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:I can't change the past,
but I can change the future.
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:And if you don't have that reflection
time, then the risk is that you
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:repeat that same mistake because
you've missed the opportunity to take
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:the learning and the understanding.
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:I have so much empathy
for people doing this.
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:I was very much that kind of on to
the next, on to the next, on to the
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:next, and didn't do as much reflection
either on achievements or on challenges
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:as I could have done in my career.
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:And it's one thing that it now makes
me a fierce advocate because having
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:started to do it and recognized,
oh, This has a massive impact.
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:It has become something that working
with clients and seeing the value
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:it adds, I'm a huge advocate for it.
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:Pam: Yeah, I am the same with that.
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:And then that leads me on to number
four, which is seeking feedback.
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:So asking for feedback generally
makes people feel uncomfortable.
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:We know this and You can feel quite
exposed asking for feedback, but again,
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:it this isn't about beating yourself up.
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:It's about capturing the good stuff
and also making sure that you can
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:continue exploring changes that you
can make so that your next review Has
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:even more for the achievement section.
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:So it's about asking, the right
questions when you're looking for
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:that feedback, not just asking, tell
me generally about my performance.
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:So some questions that you can use in
order to get some actionable feedback
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:and we will also link to the podcast
episode that we did around asking
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:for feedback as well, if you want
to go a little bit more in depth.
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:But just to get you started with some
questions to think about for your
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:quarterly planning, number one would
be, how would you rate the degree of
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:clarity and direction I give the team?
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:Are there any examples where I've done
it well or could have done it better?
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:So these are questions that
you can ask to your team.
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:senior leaders.
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:And again, number two, from your
perspective, what are the one to
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:two things I could do differently?
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:You can keep this general, or you
can apply it to specific situations.
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:For example what could I
do differently in meetings?
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:And number three is how can I
better communicate our goals,
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:priorities and expectations?
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:And then number four could be, what
would you say the best things about
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:the contribution our team make?
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:So as you, ask those questions and
you capture the responses and you
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:reflect, you'll be able to think about
those things and what other people
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:have said, and really use that in
the next quarter to make sure that
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:you're driving your team forwards and
you're moving towards achieving what
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:you set out at the start of the year.
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:Jacqui: Yeah, it's, it is really
valuable and very few people
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:consistently commit to this.
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:And even if you don't create a future
90 day plan, just purely creating
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:that regular process of reflection
and review will potentially be
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:a game changer for your career.
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:So even if you listen to none of
the rest of this episode, then
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:take note of some of those areas,
think about how they could help.
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:Create some time for
more of that reflection.
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:So once people have done
that, then what comes next?
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:That's all well and good having all
that reflection and looking at the
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:data and thinking about what's gone
well and what the challenges have been,
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:how do you then start to move into
crafting a plan for the coming quarter.
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:Pam: So the first thing that
you need to do when you start to
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:think about creating your plan.
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:So obviously you need to give yourself
some time to look at those reflections
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:and really think into them and really
understand, what was good, what you can
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:do better and all of that kind of stuff.
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:The next thing that you need to do
is to create some thinking space.
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:So block out some time, In your calendar
and find a spot where you're not going
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:to be interrupted and that might be at
work that might be off site somewhere
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:that might be in a coffee shop, wherever
you know that you do your best thinking,
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:wherever you can be creative and really
give yourself that space to look at.
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:Everything that you've reflected
on and then what you need to
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:do to move forward as well.
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:So you want to be thinking about how
you can, how you can use this time
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:creatively and even thinking like,
sometimes a nice new notebook can
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:help or some new pens can really
help this part of the process along.
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:New stationery can sometimes
help you be a bit more creative.
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:I know I absolutely love a new pack
of highlighters and at the moment I'm
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:absolutely loving mechanical pencils from
all my planning so I can rub stuff out.
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:But whatever it takes for you
to think creatively and to give
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:yourself that time and space is good.
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:Yeah,
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:Jacqui: the environment is something
that people don't always give thought
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:to, and changing your environment
can really change your mental state.
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:It can really change how you feel
and just create that foundation for
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:you to think and operate differently.
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:So people generally do not do
their best thinking in front of a
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:laptop with a Word document open.
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:And yet that is so often when somebody
starts to think about creating a plan,
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:that's so often where people go to first.
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:We're not trying to be prescriptive with
what you need to do, but just think about
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:what environment works best for you.
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:Is it a cafe with a notebook?
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:Is it.
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:a different office?
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:Is it a whiteboard and magic markers?
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:What do you need to do your best thinking?
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:Go create that.
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:Pam: Yeah.
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:And I totally agree with all of that.
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:And I think the next thing for me is
about creating clarity as well, because
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:I think sometimes we set the goals
and we set the objectives and then we
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:almost move so far away from them that
we forget about, the real basic stuff.
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:So asking yourself questions like, what
are the expectations of me in my role?
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:Might seem pretty, pretty basic, but
actually sometimes we can move so far
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:away from what is expected of us because
we've taken on new projects and new pieces
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:of work and all the rest of it that we
can actually move quite far away from
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:that, which is then going to jeopardize.
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:Our ability to achieve those
objectives that we set at the start
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:of the year, and then thinking
about what are my priorities.
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:And also, like the key thing is what
is the number one priority, what
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:is the key thing that I need to be
focusing on in this next quarter.
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:And what specific outcomes,
do I need to deliver in the
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:next 90 days, and that might.
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:You need to go back and revisit the
original objectives and the original goals
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:and work out, are we on track or not?
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:And then going back to the data is
going to be really useful there.
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:And then what will need to be in motion
in the next 90 days so that the longer
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:term outcomes will become a reality.
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:So we're not just going to whip
out the documents week before
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:and go, Oh, how can we get all of
this done in the next seven days?
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:So yeah, so thinking about what
you need to have in motion, almost
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:planning out like each thing is a
mini project that you need to deliver.
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:I
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:Jacqui: just want to pick up two of
those I think are my top two and that
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:I bang on about this to clients, you
should always know what is the number one
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:priority for you and your team right now.
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:And you should make sure that
your team would answer that
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:the same way that you do.
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:And the other is that question of what
needs to be in motion to hit my annual
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:objectives as opposed to just what needs
to be delivered in this next three months.
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:It's so easy to, when you're doing
three month planning to focus on,
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:I need to deliver this in the three
months, or I'm already working on this
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:and this needs to get to this point.
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:You have to be aware of what are
the things that might be coming up.
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:There might be cross functional projects
you'll need to be involved with.
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:There might be things that are
going to be delivered in the second
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:half, but some groundwork needs
to happen in this next quarter.
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:So very much that longer range view
and then saying, okay, and of that,
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:what needs to be in motion in this
next 90 days will mean that you
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:don't have those nasty surprises
when you come to do the next plan.
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:Pam: Yeah, exactly.
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:And that leads quite nicely into the
next part, which is about reflection
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:again, because reflection is so valuable.
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:So once you sit down to create your planet
is about reflecting and asking yourself.
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:Some more questions around what
actions need to be taken in order
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:for the outcomes to be delivered.
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:What knowledge or skills will I need
to make this happen or what will my
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:team, what knowledge or skills will
my team need to make this happen?
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:What relationships do you need to develop?
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:And also what do you need
to stop doing or do less of?
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:And who will now be doing the work?
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:the work?
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:And I think that's the
real key part, isn't it?
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:Because we get so focused in
on let's write some actions.
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:Let's write some objectives.
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:What are we going to be doing?
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:What does success look like?
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:And all of that kind of stuff.
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:But we forget to just reflect.
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:And that little bit deeper to
really understand what actions
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:do we actually need to take?
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:And what are those core things
that sit underneath all of that,
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:like the relationships, because
building strong relationships in
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:one area can mean that you can
speed something up in another area.
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:And it's about looking at that as a whole
thing and how it all fits in together.
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:And it's just, when you do that.
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:It is it's game changing.
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:It really is.
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:And we do this for our business,
but we do this with clients as well.
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:Don't we?
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:And the feedback that we got from clients
is wow that is absolutely game changing.
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:I've never thought about it like that.
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:I set the objectives at the
start of the year and go.
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:And with the documents out in the
last few weeks and, jobs done.
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:And then you spend that few weeks
trying to pull all your evidence
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:together and all of that kind of stuff.
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:When actually doing it this way, you can
make that real impact as you go along.
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:And it helps with everything, doesn't it?
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:All of this stuff that you will
be doing within this planning and
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:within the 90 day planning is.
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:stuff that you can use
for interview answers.
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:It's stuff that you can use to progress
your career, to understand where you
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:need to develop on a personal level.
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:It's just the most valuable thing
that you can do in your career.
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:It
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:Jacqui: really is.
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:So with all of that in place
then, where you've got that good
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:thinking space, you've reflected
on how to create clarity for what
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:needs to be delivered or achieved.
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:You've thought about the actions
that then need to happen.
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:Essentially, that's the point at
which you're in the position to
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:create your 90 day plan, isn't it?
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:Pam: Yeah, and this is where you do
need to now take the ideas that you've
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:got and really document that plan.
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:So it's easy to get really hung
up on the format of the plan.
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:And if you've already got one that
you love, then just go for it, get
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:it done, start working through it.
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:Or if you haven't, or you're not
quite sure where to start, or
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:you'd like to see an example, then
Jackie's created a template that
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:you can use to get you started.
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:When, as you're working through your
plan, what you want to do now is you want
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:to take all of the initial information
that you've dumped onto the paper and
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:ask yourself, which of this stuff needs
to come first and start to sift through
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:the ideas that you've got and almost
create yourself three lists, a 30 day
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:list, a 60 day list and 90 day list.
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:And they're the things that
you will then work through.
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:At this point, it's not unusual to have
a huge list in month one and barely
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:anything in the second or third month.
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:And Jackie's smiling and nodding because
this is what happens generally, isn't it?
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:When we start, when we do that
first draft of the quarterly plan.
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:Jacqui: it happens all the time.
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:And again, it's that recency
bias in operation where the
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:things that have occurred to you.
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:All feel like, yep, that's important.
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:So you've got all these ideas bubbling,
and it's natural to then just put
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:everything down for the next 30 days,
and then there's nothing beyond.
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:And don't get me wrong, I think a
normal 90 day plan will have more in
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:the first 30 days, a bit less, In the
30 to 60 days and a bit less again,
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:because curve balls will come in.
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:Situations will change.
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:There will be things that you don't
know now, or things that are contingent
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:for later on what happens at the start.
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:So it's natural that there will
be more at the beginning when
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:you first create your plan.
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:But just be mindful.
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:Of how much have you got?
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:And is that realistic?
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:Is that sensible bearing in mind how your
week is structured and how you operate?
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:What you don't want to do is just create
yourself a mad, crazy 30 day plan.
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end of the first 30 days and be okay
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I haven't had time to do any of it.
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to have some of that balance.
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people to review your 90 day plan.
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it, put something down.
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back to it in fresh eyes.
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missed, that you totally forgot.
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that look like bottlenecks.
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from now to maybe a little bit later.
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there we go, create it, but then go
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finalize what your plan looks like.
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:Pam: Yeah, and I think that's
the key thing, isn't it?
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then you need to come back and revisit it.
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with fresh eyes, you've had
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in a little bit more detail.
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some time to think through the different
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needs to wait, can that be managed?
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yourself through the process
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you are focused on your plan is to look at
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actions and your 90 day actions, like
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and see, do they link together?
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and you don't look at anything else
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have this huge list, here's my plan, and
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and the thing that you said was the
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team, how much of that is there in this?
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were vying for attention of being
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make it, how much of those is there?
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priority list, then that helps when
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do you know what, actually, there
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to find an easier way to do that.
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that is going to work with me or
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aspects on that particular thing.
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once you've got that clarity of what's
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that there's enough attention to move
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refining process becomes so important.
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especially like if you're looking at
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the priorities in your 60 day list,
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to start to happen in the 30 day list.
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because you're focusing on other things,
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back and go what actually is important?
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achieve that thing first?
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goals, are they more important?
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and the more you get yourself into
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through those processes, it will
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get the clarity as well.
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clarity, the more the things that
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and attention into those things.
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the more momentum you gain on
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okay, if something else comes in from
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this in order to accommodate that?
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then you've got that way of having that
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conflicting priorities when you've got a
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thinking, if you haven't got clarity on
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risk of other people making demands of you
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things and how to try and accommodate and.
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:Pam: Yeah, definitely.
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and become consistent with planning
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and become consistent with the creative
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sure that you've got that planned in.
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yourself and your team are better equipped
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without burning out or wasting an energy.
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disciplined approach that will make you
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to stay in control despite any inevitable
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:curveballs that may pop up along the
way and if you'd like support of any of
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:this, Jackie does a really good power
hour around this, and there's a plan
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:and workbook that you can also download
or put the link in the show notes.
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:So if you want to download the planning
workbook and you want some support
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:with creating your plan, then do check
out Jackie's practical leadership
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:power hours, because they are amazing.
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